Sunday, November 12, 2006

The Evolution of Socialism

Collectivism believes in the concentration of power at the expense of individual freedoms and rights. The state is controlled by a ruling elite which determines the law. The source of rights under a collectivist paradigm is the feelings or whims of the controlling group. Under this ideological variant, rights are nothing more than the permissions granted to him by other men. Man must ask for permission to live. Communism, Fascism, Socialism, theocracies, and military Dictatorships are all forms of Collectivism.

Towards the middle of the twentieth collectivism was becoming an obvious perceptual failure. While it secured power for small groups of ruling elites it was manifested practically in different forms of evil to the public— war, poverty, oppression, famine, and social unrest. Its failing were obvious to most people. While it triumphed morally —selfless sacrifice is noble and self interest is evil, it failed practically—massive amounts of unnecessary death. It produced an evidently miserable, poor and oppressive culture in its Communist forms —Germany, China and Russia. It was failing in its theocratic forms, even while being home to the largest oil reserves in the world – the Islamic Democratic Socialism of Iran, Algeria, and Iraq. And to make matters worse it was also performing miserably in its less violent socialist forms— the welfare states of Great Britain, America, France and Canada were mired in stagnation and recession with all the typical consequences of high unemployment, high taxation, and high inflation.

Eastern and Middle Eastern Collectivists responded by typically Authoritarian means—contemporary Islamic Fascism, Chinese pragmatic Communism, and Eastern European Oligarchs are their current forms. All are still violent, prone to war and poverty, and culturally oppressive. And of course power is still confined to a small group who believe they are acting in society’s best interests.

Socialism responded differently. They didn’t panic. Once again they took a more subtle action. They publicly disavowed their own propaganda. They conceded the failure of bureaucratic control, central planning and scientific production. They admitted free markets were more effective in controlling production. This was ingenious compared to the crude methods employed by their inarticulate brethren.

Socialism never was about equality. That’s the propaganda they used to influence the public sentiments. Socialism like all other forms of collectivism is about power and who has it. Power is needed to control, protect and engineer society. Socialism believes in securing power through the confiscation and redistribution of wealth. Enforced Democratic measures by the western world ensured the need for a gradual secession of power combined with a subtler mechanism used to manipulate wealth compared to the overtly violent Communists means.

Socialism traditionally secured wealth and consequently power through the nationalization of industry. They preached the benefits of scientific planning and altruism. The Canadian Government, like most other western democracies, have owned or still do own monopolies, in the oil, timber, hydroelectric, television, communications, railroad, aviation, mail delivery, and medicine industries. The problem was that the public failure of these controls was too obvious to maintain power for a prolonged period of time in a truly democratic country. The common citizen dealt with the inefficient bureaucratic mechanism every day. He saw how his tax dollars were being spent and wasted every day far too clearly for government to be comfortable. All the moral propaganda in the world couldn’t combat the evident economic failures of social planning.

The seizure of wealth prevents a truly independent class form arising in society. If government controls the wealth then one must act accordingly to obtain it within society. Socialist Collectivists understood this. It was not necessary to own the industry’s production it was only necessary to control its profits. They admitted central planning was a failure. They relinquished their burdensome monopolies and began to sell public assets to private individuals (albeit individuals who were very friendly with the ruling collectivists—Maurice Strong) and immediately began to fervently regulate and outrageously tax every component of business.

This solved multiple problems. It allowed Collectivists to deflect criticism while still controlling power. They were allowed to unload the burden of complex industry production while still maintaining control of its profits. It hid their ineptness from the public and placed the blame on distant corporations. They could tax all production at 48% (second only to China— meaning that 48 cents of every created dollar of worth passes through government coffers before redistribution) which allowed them to maintain financial control of the country.

The entrepreneur is too small of a minority to resist government coercion. Morally, he is condemned by the public— through government controlled influence: education, artistic funding, and academic propaganda. And to further ensure citizen obedience, it is made obvious that his wealth is always closely tied to the arbitrary legislation of the ruling collectivist government. See NEP, Interest Rate fluctuation, and most recently Income Trust legislation.

While Socialism has evolved its collectivist premises remain unchanged—maintain power.

21 Comments:

At 9:48 PM, Anonymous Adrian MacNair said...

Collectivism in moderation is good. Otherwise we have South America. Entrepreneurs and streets full of kids that require death squads to get rid of them.

That's why Canada is such a perfect blend of collectivism and capitalism.

 
At 11:30 PM, Blogger notloz said...

lol buddy,
Your a mouthpiece to the fasism! Do you generate any of your own idea's? or do you just spout stigmatic pretencious rhetorical ignorance, verbatim!

 
At 9:00 AM, Blogger angryroughneck said...

Where did I plagerize? What is the rhetorical ignorance you are talking about? Inquiring minds want to know-- let's see a specific example. Vague accusatsions-- real intellectually brave. Fascism is the intellectual cousind of Communism and anybody who has read past page 8 of their Chomsky reader would know that. Notloz is a perfect example of public education. Apathetic and zero ability to critically.

 
At 2:16 PM, Blogger notloz said...

Buddy I dont know if you want me to pull out the big guns? but since im pressed for time you may ask for my reply at a further date where i will philisophically and politically mollest you.

 
At 5:29 PM, Blogger angryroughneck said...

Wow, I'll be frank. This pissed me off a little. A twit with a degree shows up insults me and tells me how great he is-- a champion thinker no doubt.

"lol buddy,
Your a mouthpiece to the fasism! Do you generate any of your own idea's? or do you just spout stigmatic pretencious rhetorical ignorance, verbatim"

And then when I ask him for some facts. I get told he's too busy, but he would philisophically destroy me if he had the time.

If you had the time? What you're too busy reading blogs? Nit wit. When people are busy they don't spend their time surfing the net insulting people. That alone makes this one of the stupidist comments I have ever read and i know JOE GREEN.

Another thing. You can't just go through life telling people how smart you are. Blah Blah i read this book Blah Blah i studied this Blah Blah i am the smartest. It's like being tough. You can talk all you want but some day you got to step up to the plate. I sense a guy like you probably gets his ass kicked.

Now insolent Grasshopper. if you were half as smart as you think you were you would have been able to link together 3 or 4 sentences of rebuttal and put me in my place. But I know you don't have that type of fast thinking brain and right now you are going through a thousand page book by Rawls (probably theory of justic) and looking for the right passage to rip off, but i welcome it now. I welcome seeing how an arrogant prick like yourself is "going to philosophically molest me."

 
At 7:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wouldn’t be bothered over what a dipshit like Notloz has to say to defend his comments, even if it promises to be a philosophical molestation (quaint). I doubt that someone who writes incoherent sentences like "Your a mouthpiece to the fasism!" doesn't have the mental faculties to debate. He inserts a phrase of seemingly random multi-syllable words, including the baffling stigmatic (?!), yet calls you pretentious. Even better, he is too “pressed for time” to explain his statements, implying he’s incapable of concisely articulating his argument in the amount of time it takes him to write that arrogant tripe. Though wasn’t he charitable in granting you permission to ask for his reply later? Lol buddy, lol.

 
At 3:00 PM, Blogger mean old driller said...

the ranks of the left have nots
let the main brain call the shots
my paper tiger will molest
your "fascist" protest
cuz my IQ is notloz


sorry i could not resist, kind of makes me pine for joe green at least he attempted to mount an offensive.

 
At 12:11 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I appreciate your blog.

why not delete the inflammatory comments? feeding them just brings them back for more ...

 
At 10:41 AM, Blogger notloz said...

Just biding my time a little longer, waiting for you fools to come up with at least one reasoned and relevent comment before I rebuke your nonsensical rambleings.
Here's a tip (conservatives were never fond of facts and reasoned arguments) You manipulate emotions because you cannot coerce someone with REAL facts.
dont you get it concious life in the universe is at risk !The whole sha-bang is at stake!
The current economic super stucture does not recognize the enviroment or individuals who are at the bottom of it.
If we agree that this statement is true. Why would you propagate and advance the systemization of our labor forces in a a system that does not even recognize mankind. Your attack on socialism is rhetoric at best, but thats all ignorant conservatives have to manipulate populations who dont have a good political education.
Instead you will have big corporate buisness buying media sources to distribute fascism. Hence you are a mouth peice to the fascism for you try to validate and anchient system that need to be updated for new realites like the envioment have come to light (capitalistic system was created before the notion of the enviroment) By I am not one sided on my attack on the current economic super stucture, it does have some extreamly valuable characteristics. Its created interdependancy between weastern nations making a long lasting peace etc... However its short commings are in dire need of debate and reform.
and to counter what someone said about me earlier.
I do not calim to be smarter then you ( we would have to quantify our knowledge- impossible) I just know different things.
I could contuine but Why? You will ignore what I say just because im a left winger, the imputs that you listen to make you HATE and FEAR your opposition. Could you honestly give me a good reason why you should hate and fear us?
In a way i feel sorry for you, fear and anger are our most primal emotions conservatives use this to make people paranoid and confused, your caught in the middle (hopefully this fear and anger do not effect your personal life)
Remember Love conquers fear and anger and i hope that you can take an outside look at yourself and make a 180 cause you do sound like an intelegent guy.
To be or not to be that is the mother fucking question and as a lefty I love existance I love concious life I think that the world is a good place. you just never had the chance to see how beautifull this all is.

 
At 2:17 PM, Blogger angryroughneck said...

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At 9:17 AM, Blogger angryroughneck said...

Thats it. Thats the philosophical molestation you warned everyone about.

This will be short. Obviously you are a first or second year arts student just beginning to search out philosophy. Consequently I have no interest in picking on you. I was once a young leftist myself and the only way i broke through the ignorance and propoganda was my love of knowledge. Hang in there.

I will point out a couple of coceptual errors you have made about a free society.

"Here's a tip (conservatives were never fond of facts and reasoned arguments) You manipulate emotions because you cannot coerce someone with REAL facts."

Completely untrue. My metaphysical axiom (starting point) is A is A. Any political or ethical statement must be able to be traced back to A is A or it cannot be considered true.

It is leftists that refuse to recognize facts and instead rely on emotion and fear. IE health care, higher taxes, pension... etc. It is the socialist who chides that man has no right to his own life. That he is to be sacrificed for the greater good or public interest. How do you use reason to decide-- What is the greater good? Who decides that? How does he know what is the greater good. Why do you believe man doesn't have the right to his own life?

2)
Freedom is completely antithetical to fascism. Freedom is based on the inherantly natural and logical right that man has the right to be a self generating, self sustaining, free thinking individual.

fascism's starting point is much different. It starts that it is completely moral to sacrifice men as to promote the nation. The nation state trumps individual rights under fascism. Men are not free under fascism. They are suboordinated by the nation's aims. Hitler wanted to rule Europe. Well then it was the individuals duty to fight for Europe. It was the buisness man's duty to quit making cars and start producing tanks.

Clearly differnt than "legitimate" capitalism which based upon voluntary contracts and the ban of force. In a free society the government has no ability to run your life as long as you don't infring on other people rights to freely exist (freedom is not anarchism-- that is a nother topic though). Only a governemnt can coerce you ( and generally under the guise of "for the greater good of society." In a free world what power does Bill Gates have over you? How is he "forcing fascism" on to you. All he can do is make better computers, make products that you and I want. He is powerless over my moral life.

Also dont get confused into thinking people "fear" and "hate" you because you're so much smarter than everyone else. i would guess what you're experiencing is because you're arrogant and aggressive. I wrote a short essay on a relevant topic(this is a political forum) and you continually write me for the sole purpose of insulting me. Read the comment. it is clearly you that is motivated by fear and hate.

any questions and I will be glad to help.

 
At 2:23 PM, Blogger notloz said...

Freedom or your rhetorical use of the word is overstated and overrated. By definition Freedom is the ability to do what ever you want to do.

Isn't that a bad thing?
unless you want people to molest children
and use heroin.

I have no problem with a person tring to live and independant self sufficiant life except that an individuals awareness is limited to their small individual ammounts of knowledge (they dont know what the fuck their doing)

"Completely untrue. My metaphysical axiom (starting point) is A is A. Any political or ethical statement must be able to be traced back to A is A or it cannot be considered true."

Simple question then
Do you love life?
Do you like existance?
Is the trip good?
Your purchasing power alone probabbly determines though action that you do not love life. The shirt off you back the chemicals exspoused by you automobile etc...
Your ethical Axiom Could be based on Nihistic principals IE: Leo Strauss philosiphy of deception (conservative thinker)
meaning you have no ethical starting point

"In a free society the government has no ability to run your life as long as you don't infring on other people rights to freely exist"
Right! freely exist in the now maybe(thats debatable), but the system does not recognize mankind nor its future.
The individual at the top of the metaphisical world is only taking his existance into account for they cannot look past their own flashing seconds of existance.

I am a coercer and I will admit it I am arrogant and agressive, who isn,t its my principaled choice. It ususally doesnt make me any friends but the argument I am coercing you with should pierce my arogant and agressive ways. It the best way to be honest. You are a manipulatior but you cannot admit it. Just look at you write up on socialism, (Hayak Verbatim) you seem to have only exspressed athoritarian socialism, You seemed to neglect Ghandi and other left wing libertarian movements.
Why???
Manipulation
The tricky thing with maniplation is are you the man starting with the manipulation or did they prey on your emotions and reason and your just a sucker being manipulated.

Its also kinda funny that your accuseing my of using fear and anger when your avatar name alone is (Angry roughnneck)

 
At 4:21 PM, Blogger angryroughneck said...

More philosophical molestation? Wow, you are too smart for me because I couldn't understand much of what you said. Answering only quells my most masochistic instincts. Anyway Lots of what you said made little sense, and until you can be more articulate and precise I can only respond to what I can.

"Freedom is the ability to do what you want. Isn't that a bad thing?
unless you want people to molest children and use heroin"

I warned about this (freedom is anarchy ha ha. Anyway I thought the right wing was dependent upon fearmongering? Molesting children violates rights. Come on don't you have any friends to try these arguments out on?

"I have no problem with a person tring to live and independant self sufficiant life except that an individuals awareness is limited to their small individual ammounts of knowledge (they dont know what the fuck their doing)"

This pretensious, arrogant and false. Recognize the conflict that you are supporting. according to you man is too limited in knowledge to manage his own life. Think about it-- I recognize that I am not omniscent yet even without a knowlege of mediterranean fishing techniques or quantum physics i am still in the best positsion to decide where to work or how many eggs to purchase at the supermarket. This incomplete knowledge is the reason only man is capable of running his own life. But instead you reject this fact (A is A) and claim that there is some superman or group of supermans, or some well intentioned comitttee out there that should run everybody's life for their own good.

Plus on a comical note; is someone that writes at a tenth grade level in a position to determine what is best for someone else? Or would someone else be a better positsion to decide?

"I am a coercer and I will admit it I am arrogant and agressive, who isn,t its my principaled choice. It ususally doesnt make me any friends but the argument I am coercing you with should pierce my arogant and agressive ways.

"Coercer" is not a verb. And even if it were you would be using it incorrectly. You are not coercing me. you are argueing, which is something different. coerce means to force. I could care less about how you act, or what you think or say about me. That is where your power ends in a free world. See.

 
At 5:15 PM, Blogger Joe Green said...

angryroughneck wrote thus...

"If you had the time? What you're too busy reading blogs? Nit wit. When people are busy they don't spend their time surfing the net insulting people. That alone makes this one of the stupidist comments I have ever read and i know JOE GREEN."

Your a lying whore!

I do not associate with the religous followings of Karl Marx or Ayn Rand. Nor do I condone piracy, murderers, cut throats, capitalists or thieves as you, Marx and Rand do.

Fuck Off!

 
At 1:46 PM, Blogger mean old driller said...

hooray the return of joe green! perhaps since notlotz and joe are in the same boat they can both row out in left circles on a mindless sea of rhetoric that would impress at a faculty mixer but has no basis in 99% of the real functionig world.
oh & i think the angry roughneck is a whore but thats another case in point

 
At 12:10 PM, Blogger Joe Green said...

All you Atlas Shrugged lovers are in for a shock, the book was actually written by Alan Greenspan, and Rand was little more than his scribe.

And of course the world now knows who Alan Greenspan was, thanks to a new book entitled "Greenspan's Fraud".

You right wing sickos should all be in jail doing life sentences for your crimes against humanity.

 
At 11:23 AM, Blogger mean old driller said...

did jesus write the new testament?
if.....greenspan wrote it would the message and lesson be any different?
basic human rights and the drive to better oneself are in no way related comrade. do i really deserve the gulag because i shaved my mustache? welcome to the global thaw...check into your red chinese brethren and see how thay have started turn their economy around and i'm sure you'll find more cases of privitzation and FREE market enterprise than 5 year plans. chairman mao's handbook is not the only bestseller anymore.

 
At 5:25 PM, Blogger notloz said...

Just lose your old prejedices
think out side the economic box
because if you cant your an apendage to a system that we created but lost control of.
If i directly put your epitomological understanding of yourself with in contrast with something that represents reality better then your small understanding of it.
Then I would blow your mind and destroy the big arciitecture in your head.
I would destroy you (individual)
I dont like popping heads off
In addition
You still havent come up with a decent rebuttle against any of my forcefull attacks.
Thanks for the validation

Peace and love will conquer the fear
We now have the majority people the collective unconcious and are getting smarter all the time.

 
At 8:25 AM, Blogger angryroughneck said...

Answer you? I did. Too dumb to read. You support a million contradictions, make asanine boasts and have not offered up one piece of evidence too assert any of your claims. i bet you 16 year old girl friend laughs behind your back when you atart talking.

By the way-- What is the collective unconcious?

Describe it. Explain it.

 
At 11:27 PM, Blogger Joe Green said...

angryroughneck asked...

"By the way-- What is the collective unconcious?"

Answer, a group of Objectivists discussing reality.

 
At 9:32 PM, Blogger mean old driller said...

"peace and love will conquer fear"
the prince sums it up nice that it is better to be feared than loved. however i have no fear that you'll "pop my head off" no matter how much you do not like to do it and the gaining of intellegince is fantastic!soon my son you'll see further than your parents basement, social programs and govt student loans and be able to ponder more of individual prioritys while you mcjob and attempt to justify yourself.

 

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